tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post6402930138032648524..comments2024-03-11T16:29:13.619-05:00Comments on Lingwë - Musings of a Fish: More new books — and an excerptJason Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-51515853577894279142011-02-28T08:51:12.545-06:002011-02-28T08:51:12.545-06:00That is very interesting I did not know that "...That is very interesting I did not know that "the circles of time" were added at a later date. I can only think this has something to do with history repeating its self. I think it does deserve more thought. I agree about free will. I have been thinking that Iluvatar's creations are referred to as his children. What father does not love his children and wish for their love in return. Without free will Iluvatar could never feel any love for him from his children could be genuine. Neither would they be capable of giving that love of their own free will. Isn't Melkor's defiance in the music of the Ainur free will?Gerry Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11628778372905188334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-73843159110183373712011-02-18T14:29:32.138-06:002011-02-18T14:29:32.138-06:00Gerry, very glad to share, and thanks for the posi...Gerry, very glad to share, and thanks for the positive feedback. The “circles of time” is an interesting counterpoint to the “circles of the world”. If memory serves, that phrase is not present in the earlier drafts of the Ainulindalë but entered into it in one of Tolkien’s recensions of the later 1940’s (see <i>Morgoth’s Ring</i>). I might hazard a guess — no more than that at the moment; I haven’t looked into it or thought much about it yet — that the phrase emerged later as a direct corollary to the “circles of the world”, which had been developing and taking shape in Tolkien’s imagination for some years, and that it was worked into the cosmology of Arda after the fact as analogous to the other trope.<br /><br />As to the interpretation of the trope, yes, I think you’re on the right road: the vision Ilúvatar showed to the Ainur was finite or bounded in some way, and its ending was unrevealed. I would argue this is because of the free will of the Children of Ilúvatar. (Verlyn Flieger contends it is only Men who have free will, not Elves, but I disagree.)Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-82725394506154047792011-02-18T13:42:35.975-06:002011-02-18T13:42:35.975-06:00Sandra, my pleasure! Please keep me posted on the ...Sandra, my pleasure! Please keep me posted on the progress of the second volume too.Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-62606290227269220582011-02-18T06:11:25.843-06:002011-02-18T06:11:25.843-06:00Jason
First of all thanks for giving us the oppor...Jason <br />First of all thanks for giving us the opportunity to read your article with out buying the book. I am not a wealthy man so I really appreciate your sharing so generously. I found your article to be excellent and very interesting. <br />What do you make of Tolkien's mention of "the circles of time" in the Ainulindale. Is it possible he may have been referiing to the finite aspect of the vision of Iluvatar. that the begining must come to the end so that it may begin again?Gerry Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11628778372905188334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-28971712714155762602011-02-16T10:36:57.629-06:002011-02-16T10:36:57.629-06:00Thanks for the coverage! Light Beyond All Shadow c...Thanks for the coverage! Light Beyond All Shadow continues to creep towards publication-- we hope--this year.Sandra Mieselnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-24006158468410647102011-02-11T13:03:27.879-06:002011-02-11T13:03:27.879-06:00Should be interesting books! Thanks for letting us...Should be interesting books! Thanks for letting us know. I've added the latter two to my Amazon wish list but couldn't find the one you are in. Will add that when I can. Congrats again!<br /><br />Namarie, God bless, Anne Marie :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-31605241141426176152011-02-11T11:42:59.508-06:002011-02-11T11:42:59.508-06:00Jason
A brilliant article I am going to order th...Jason <br /><br />A brilliant article I am going to order the book through Amazon UK. Was also thinking when reading your excellent analysis of "kringla" meaning circle and ring - that in the later stages of the legendarium Tolkien developed the idea that Melkor/Morgoth put all his evil into Arda thus making the world Morgoth's Ring - in this case the duel meaning becomes very much in use as Tolkien equated the world with a metaphoric ring. <br /><br />I agree with above we need a Root and Branches the Scholary Articles of Jason Fisher (watch out T A Shippey there is competition afoot!). <br /><br />Best, AndyDr. Andrew Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16695949868240167504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-35611718859561444452011-02-11T10:34:16.155-06:002011-02-11T10:34:16.155-06:00Thanks, Lillyput. One day, maybe. :)
N.E. Brigand...Thanks, Lillyput. One day, maybe. :)<br /><br />N.E. Brigand, I think the situation is similar to what we saw with the <i>J.R.R Tolkien Encyclopedia</i>, whose copyright page states 2007, but which really appeared in 2006 — i.e., sometimes the publisher guesses wrong. A more extreme example: <i>On Tolkien: Interviews, Reminiscences, and Other Essays</i>, edited by Douglas Anderson and Marjorie Burns, the announcement of which proved <i>woefully</i> immature.<br /><br />In this case, Cambridge Scholars Publishing apparently disseminated a publication date of December 1, 2010 to the various retailers and publication databases, but the book was certainly not ready by then. I heard from one of the editors on January 24 that the book was “in press and should be out in a month”.<br /><br />Although it seems to be available now, it is still not <i>universally</i> available. Amazon states is ships in 2–4 weeks, code for “it’s not really available now, but we expect it to soon”. Even Amazon.co.uk does not say the book is in stock; rather, it says it ships in 7–12 days (also code). It can, however, be purchased at this time (apparently) directly from CSP, and at least one person in the U.S. already has a copy in hand.Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-39470317610809269892011-02-10T16:44:55.543-06:002011-02-10T16:44:55.543-06:00Oh, and congratulations!Oh, and congratulations!N.E. Brigandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601573470596905112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-27067408023480065132011-02-10T16:39:18.109-06:002011-02-10T16:39:18.109-06:00The front matter for Middle-earth and Beyond ident...The front matter for <i>Middle-earth and Beyond</i> identifies it as a 2010 book, but you say it's only now being shipped, in 2011. Which is correct?N.E. Brigandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601573470596905112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-8288220517659260722011-02-10T16:35:05.367-06:002011-02-10T16:35:05.367-06:00Love the essay! I'm definitely a fan! One day,...Love the essay! I'm definitely a fan! One day, there will have to be a book titled "The Scholarly Essays of Jason Fisher". Well done again!Lillyput90noreply@blogger.com