tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post6347378178285296808..comments2024-03-11T16:29:13.619-05:00Comments on Lingwë - Musings of a Fish: Tolkien Studies 5 — at long last!Jason Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-17082286163864571912008-09-29T15:05:00.000-05:002008-09-29T15:05:00.000-05:00Thanks, N.E. Brigand. I’ve read Squire’s excellent...Thanks, N.E. Brigand. I’ve read Squire’s excellent exegesis of the Lament for Boromir before (thanks to you, again), but I’m sure Adanedhel, and other readers, will enjoy it. The other links were new to me (unless my memory fails me), as was Gene Hargrove’s page on the poems in <I>The Lord of the Rings</I>.Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-45180871992930971592008-09-29T14:43:00.000-05:002008-09-29T14:43:00.000-05:00Turner's essay provides a good framework for one m...Turner's essay provides a good framework for one method of analysis into the <I>Bombadil</I> poems; I just wish it were longer.<BR/><BR/>Today I came across <A HREF="http://www.cep.unt.edu/songs/tolkien.html" REL="nofollow">this page</A> by Gene Hargrove dedicated to the poems in <I>LotR</I>, but it's pretty introductory.<BR/><BR/>When I heard Corey Olsen's paper on the song of the Ents and the Entwives read at Vermont in 2007 (I still haven't read it in <I>Tolkien Studies 5</I>), it reminded me of three essays I'd encountered online, <A HREF="http://archives.theonering.net/rumour_mill/rpg/viewer/readingroom/42E331C600022132.html" REL="nofollow">this one</A> on the lament for Boromir, and <A HREF="http://archives.theonering.net/rumour_mill/rpg/viewer/readingroom/42EA5C5200022248.html" REL="nofollow">these</A> <A HREF="http://archives.theonering.net/rumour_mill/rpg/viewer/readingroom/3E63871D00010A5B.html" REL="nofollow">two</A> (plus <A HREF="http://archives.theonering.net/rumour_mill/rpg/viewer/readingroom/42EAF0CD00022260.html" REL="nofollow">rebuttal</A>) on "Gondor! Gondor!"N.E. Brigandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601573470596905112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-5247927949583440732008-09-24T17:05:00.000-05:002008-09-24T17:05:00.000-05:00I hope that Tolkien Studies and/or Walking Tree Pu...<I>I hope that Tolkien Studies and/or Walking Tree Publishers come up with more articles/books on the topic!</I><BR/><BR/>I think we can expect that they will. It’s an emerging topic. People are finally beginning to become aware of the lack of sufficiently thorough scholarship on it, so I expect we’ll start seeing more. Speaking of Walking Tree, another article you may want to check out (which I have not read yet): “‘Tom Bombadil’: Poetry and Accretion” by Allan Turner, in <I>Tolkien’s Shorter Works: Essays of the Jena Conference 2007</I>.Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-20988840782380136052008-09-24T14:54:00.000-05:002008-09-24T14:54:00.000-05:00Thanks for the references. I know Tolkien's poetry...Thanks for the references. I know Tolkien's poetry is a much overlooked subject despite the numerous studies of Tolkien's life and works. The closest I got to reading something of the kind was Ursula Le Guin's article on "Rhythmic Pattern in The Lord of the Rings" and I found it to be really interesting. I hope that Tolkien Studies and/or Walking Tree Publishers come up with more articles/books on the topic!<BR/><BR/>I'm looking forward to reading your article on the Rings of Power :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-37363768502656876552008-09-24T10:35:00.000-05:002008-09-24T10:35:00.000-05:00Yes! Thank you, N.E.B. I had intended to mention t...Yes! Thank you, N.E.B. I had intended to mention that, but forgot. Let’s hope some interesting work will come out of that session.Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-89372277296730410762008-09-24T10:30:00.000-05:002008-09-24T10:30:00.000-05:00The 44th annual International Congress on Medieval...The <A HREF="http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/index.html" REL="nofollow">44th annual</A> International Congress on Medieval Studies, next May at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, will feature a session on "Tolkien's Poetry and Song" with four papers on that subject. That session is part of the conference's "Tolkien at Kalamazoo" track, which also includes two other paper sessions, and three roundtables.N.E. Brigandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601573470596905112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-27930882046632459002008-09-24T10:08:00.000-05:002008-09-24T10:08:00.000-05:00Tolkien’s poetry — you’ve put your finger on one o...Tolkien’s poetry — you’ve put your finger on one of the most overlooked areas in Tolkien studies, actually. Some work has been done, but not nearly as much as should have been — no full-length studies, variorum editions, etc. I once proposed the idea of a variorum edition of all the poems comprising <I>The Adventures of Tom Bombadil</I>, but the Tolkien Estate was not interested in the idea. And so it goes ...<BR/><BR/>Tom Shippey identifies this as one of several areas deserving of greater attention in the introduction to his new collection, <I>Roots and Branches</I>: “Much more could be said also, I feel, about Tolkien’s early poems and their repeated rewritings [...]” (p. iv). So, if you want to plow that field, you’ll have Shippey’s blessing. But let me recommend a few things I do know about (and that might be somewhat easier for you to find):<BR/><BR/>“Tolkien’s Versecraft in <I>The Hobbit</I> and <I>The Lord of the Rings</I>” by Geoffrey Russom (in <I>J.R.R. Tolkien and His Literary Resonances</I>); “Tolkien’s Lyric Poetry” by Joe Christopher (in <I>Tolkien’s Legendarium</I>); “The Adapted Text: The Lost Poetry of Beleriand” by Gergely Nagy (in <I>Tolkien Studies</I> 1); “Indexing and Poetry in <I>The Lord of the Rings</I>” by Tom Shippey (published in <I>Lembas Extra 2004</I>, and reprinted in <I>Roots and Branches</I>); and the cluster of six (or seven, depending on how you look at it) entries on Tolkien’s poetry in <I>The J.R.R. Tolkien Enclyclopedia: Scholarship and Critical Assessment</I>. And of course, the new essay in the current <I>Tolkien Studies</I>, which I mentioned in my post: “‘With chunks of poetry in between’: The Lord of the Rings and Saga Poetics” by Carl Phelpstead.<BR/><BR/>That ought to keep you busy! :)Jason Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809154870762268253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9050528436539921312.post-6176075368521922072008-09-23T17:49:00.000-05:002008-09-23T17:49:00.000-05:00Congratulations - it's always nice to get publishe...Congratulations - it's always nice to get published, hehe. Unfortunately, I do not know when I'll get the chance of reading the latest volume of Tolkien Studies. Patience is a virtue, but alas! I am not very virtious... I am looking forward to reading it and I'm certain that it is full of wonderful and insightful articles, again. <BR/><BR/>On a slightly/completely unrelated note, I was wondering if you could point me to some information on Tolkien's poetry - are there any studies in that direction that I could find online or in print?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com